Comments on: CREATIONISM/GAME 3.0 /blog/2007/03/creationismgame-30/ We're not PlayStation but we sometimes get to speak to them Mon, 19 Mar 2018 10:51:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Polyphony_NL /blog/2007/03/creationismgame-30/comment-page-1/#comment-9349 Polyphony_NL Thu, 22 Mar 2007 03:08:41 +0000 /blog/?p=345#comment-9349 Home and Little big Planet made me also pre-order PS3. Funny how things can change so fast. Home and Little big Planet made me also pre-order PS3. Funny how things can change so fast.

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By: Basil Brush /blog/2007/03/creationismgame-30/comment-page-1/#comment-9276 Basil Brush Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:52:54 +0000 /blog/?p=345#comment-9276 @Ben 'We get charged a lot more but that’s politics, economy and exchange, not Sony.' No - I think you'll find it is Sony. I appreciate they're selling at a loss but that's the videogame industry - make a loss now and make it back off software liscencing. So yes, they are making a loss when selling UK PS3's, but they're not making nearly as much of a loss as they do when they sell a US or japanese PS3s, hence compared to people in other markets we are getting a very raw deal @Jsar Nice cost comparison, at the end of the day though you can get a core 360 for £150 or a Wii at £179, i'll stay away from your balanced appraisal of each needless to say in my opinion you couldn't see value for money if it smacked you in the chops - backwards compatibility not a huge issue but it doesn't make it any easier to pay more than other territories when the console contains less components @Ben ‘We get charged a lot more but that’s politics, economy and exchange, not Sony.’

No - I think you’ll find it is Sony. I appreciate they’re selling at a loss but that’s the videogame industry - make a loss now and make it back off software liscencing.

So yes, they are making a loss when selling UK PS3’s, but they’re not making nearly as much of a loss as they do when they sell a US or japanese PS3s, hence compared to people in other markets we are getting a very raw deal

@Jsar
Nice cost comparison, at the end of the day though you can get a core 360 for £150 or a Wii at £179, i’ll stay away from your balanced appraisal of each needless to say in my opinion you couldn’t see value for money if it smacked you in the chops - backwards compatibility not a huge issue but it doesn’t make it any easier to pay more than other territories when the console contains less components

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By: jsar /blog/2007/03/creationismgame-30/comment-page-1/#comment-9272 jsar Wed, 21 Mar 2007 09:53:35 +0000 /blog/?p=345#comment-9272 love how much people bitch about the emothion engine, i mean seriously why on earth would you pay £425 to play PS2 games, i mean seriously take a look at your games collection and think when was the last time that you played a ps1 game one your ps2. backwards compatability has always baffled me, whilst it is a nice feature it is in no means needed and tbh the amount of backwards compatability that the PS3 is providing is still better than the 360's. we managed for many many years with no backwards compatability before the arivial of the ps2. as for the cost of the machine, £425 is cheaper than any blue,player that you can by at standard retail, cheaper than any PC that you could by with the equivilent power (an equivilent PC graphics card alone would cost you in the region of £200-£300), cheaper than an equivilent xbox360 (machine+HD-DVD drive+play and charge kit+wireless adapter = approx £500 and still isnt as good as a PS3 and has a smaller hard drive) imho at the moment the biggest rip of console is the Wii, £180 for a gamecube with a motion sensor controllor, score. love how much people bitch about the emothion engine, i mean seriously why on earth would you pay £425 to play PS2 games, i mean seriously take a look at your games collection and think when was the last time that you played a ps1 game one your ps2. backwards compatability has always baffled me, whilst it is a nice feature it is in no means needed and tbh the amount of backwards compatability that the PS3 is providing is still better than the 360’s. we managed for many many years with no backwards compatability before the arivial of the ps2.

as for the cost of the machine, £425 is cheaper than any blue,player that you can by at standard retail, cheaper than any PC that you could by with the equivilent power (an equivilent PC graphics card alone would cost you in the region of £200-£300), cheaper than an equivilent xbox360 (machine+HD-DVD drive+play and charge kit+wireless adapter = approx £500 and still isnt as good as a PS3 and has a smaller hard drive)

imho at the moment the biggest rip of console is the Wii, £180 for a gamecube with a motion sensor controllor, score.

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By: BOrTaS /blog/2007/03/creationismgame-30/comment-page-1/#comment-9224 BOrTaS Wed, 21 Mar 2007 02:45:17 +0000 /blog/?p=345#comment-9224 What a poetic review. You will generally find that if you really REALLY want to want/like something, you will inevitably find a way to do so. I see nothing in this review that negates all the PS3s downsides which have been talked about plenty (eg. backwards compatability, price, over-hyped power). ...and I would hardly say at this stage that Nintendo and Microsoft are worried. What a poetic review.

You will generally find that if you really REALLY want to want/like something, you will inevitably find a way to do so. I see nothing in this review that negates all the PS3s downsides which have been talked about plenty (eg. backwards compatability, price, over-hyped power).

…and I would hardly say at this stage that Nintendo and Microsoft are worried.

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By: Ben Furneaux /blog/2007/03/creationismgame-30/comment-page-1/#comment-9184 Ben Furneaux Tue, 20 Mar 2007 17:13:20 +0000 /blog/?p=345#comment-9184 I find it very hard to see your reasoning that £425 being a rip off. Sony are LOSING MONEY on these systems! Blu Ray and the media capabilities (whether you want them or not) are more expensive alone. We get charged a lot more but that's politics, economy and exchange, not Sony. I find it very hard to see your reasoning that £425 being a rip off. Sony are LOSING MONEY on these systems! Blu Ray and the media capabilities (whether you want them or not) are more expensive alone. We get charged a lot more but that’s politics, economy and exchange, not Sony.

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By: Basil Brush /blog/2007/03/creationismgame-30/comment-page-1/#comment-9137 Basil Brush Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:27:45 +0000 /blog/?p=345#comment-9137 Littleplanet looks great...but £425 is a rip off plain & simple, so whilst you are correct in that this console is an incredibly exciting prospect (beleive me when Fumito gets coding i will follow) i can't see how anyone in their right mind could reccomend the purchase of a UK PS3 at launch... Unless you have a lot of easily disposable income, otherwise the comparison of a £170 20GB japanese model with emotion engine vs a UK £425 60GB model sans emotion engine just doesn't stack up...at all (sorry but saying we've added VAT and offset exchange rates in our favour doesn't cut the mustard for me) Littleplanet looks great…but £425 is a rip off plain & simple, so whilst you are correct in that this console is an incredibly exciting prospect (beleive me when Fumito gets coding i will follow) i can’t see how anyone in their right mind could reccomend the purchase of a UK PS3 at launch…

Unless you have a lot of easily disposable income, otherwise the comparison of a £170 20GB japanese model with emotion engine vs a UK £425 60GB model sans emotion engine just doesn’t stack up…at all (sorry but saying we’ve added VAT and offset exchange rates in our favour doesn’t cut the mustard for me)

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By: Basil Brush /blog/2007/03/creationismgame-30/comment-page-1/#comment-9136 Basil Brush Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:22:31 +0000 /blog/?p=345#comment-9136 Yea but that's no bad thing, i'm sure Lost planet and Dead Rising will go the other way... Sony have ICO team, so they're fine in the exclusives department (but not in the price department where pride is going to come before a big ass fall) What is bad news is that Ubi have held back R6vegas till spring and Graw2 till summer, oh and have held back Oblivion for Europe too.... Which is because no matter how many people buy games with their PS3 they still can't sell that many, as they know Sony are going to be caught with pants around ankels over the next few months.... Add in the US NPD figures and the news will come that MGS4 will go multiplatform, unless Sony want to give Konami a sack of money it just doesn't make business sense to do PS3 exclusives while it has a tiny userbase.. Interesting that none of that news showed up here but to be expected i guess....i just don't think comign here gives customers a really balanced view of how they can spend their cash - for big fans of Sony it's great don't get me wrong.. Yea but that’s no bad thing, i’m sure Lost planet and Dead Rising will go the other way…

Sony have ICO team, so they’re fine in the exclusives department (but not in the price department where pride is going to come before a big ass fall)

What is bad news is that Ubi have held back R6vegas till spring and Graw2 till summer, oh and have held back Oblivion for Europe too….

Which is because no matter how many people buy games with their PS3 they still can’t sell that many, as they know Sony are going to be caught with pants around ankels over the next few months….

Add in the US NPD figures and the news will come that MGS4 will go multiplatform, unless Sony want to give Konami a sack of money it just doesn’t make business sense to do PS3 exclusives while it has a tiny userbase..

Interesting that none of that news showed up here but to be expected i guess….i just don’t think comign here gives customers a really balanced view of how they can spend their cash - for big fans of Sony it’s great don’t get me wrong..

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By: Pete Cullen /blog/2007/03/creationismgame-30/comment-page-1/#comment-9135 Pete Cullen Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:19:00 +0000 /blog/?p=345#comment-9135 I'm not surprised about DMC 4 coming to the 360, but the PC is a bit of a surprise. Capcom want to make money like everyone else, and with the CURRENT low install base of the PS3 (because we all know it's going to increase rapidly, hopefully) they have to go where the money is. Like MrFurious said, there are still plenty other PS3 exclusives for us to enjoy. I still expect Capcom's exclusivity deal with Microsoft is a timed one and we will see Dead Rising and Lost Planet appear on the PS3 before the end of the year. I’m not surprised about DMC 4 coming to the 360, but the PC is a bit of a surprise. Capcom want to make money like everyone else, and with the CURRENT low install base of the PS3 (because we all know it’s going to increase rapidly, hopefully) they have to go where the money is.

Like MrFurious said, there are still plenty other PS3 exclusives for us to enjoy. I still expect Capcom’s exclusivity deal with Microsoft is a timed one and we will see Dead Rising and Lost Planet appear on the PS3 before the end of the year.

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By: thedirector /blog/2007/03/creationismgame-30/comment-page-1/#comment-9133 thedirector Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:39:59 +0000 /blog/?p=345#comment-9133 hey, i know this ain't the right place to say, but i seen posts saying devil may cry 4 is no more a ps3 exclusive....... which ia really drag i must say........... hey, i know this ain’t the right place to say, but i seen posts saying devil may cry 4 is no more a ps3 exclusive……. which ia really drag i must say………..

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By: MrFurious /blog/2007/03/creationismgame-30/comment-page-1/#comment-9130 MrFurious Tue, 20 Mar 2007 09:25:55 +0000 /blog/?p=345#comment-9130 Right big exclusive flying to X360, that is sad but that's business life...Anyway major games are approaching for our very soon Euro PS3!! I'm very excited about it and hope developers will extract much power from inside (Unchartered Drake..., Ratchet&Clank, MGS4, GT5, LBPlanet, Home, Motorstorm, etc...many reasons to get one!) Right big exclusive flying to X360, that is sad but that’s business life…Anyway major games are approaching for our very soon Euro PS3!!
I’m very excited about it and hope developers will extract much power from inside (Unchartered Drake…, Ratchet&Clank, MGS4, GT5, LBPlanet, Home, Motorstorm, etc…many reasons to get one!)

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