Dear all,
What’s your take on fanboys, negativity, online bitching etc? Does it add to the excitement of gaming? Does it get on your nerves? Do you assume those leaving comments are genuine or do you imagine there are plots, schemes and conspiracies afoot? Why do we ask? We’re interested, that’s why! Getting an understanding of what you think will help us create the right kind of content and to move forward Three Speech in the best possible fashion.
Thanks, in advance, for your input.
Fanboys - Entertaining to a point
Negativity - Can be positive force (if balanced) on a site with a direct connection to the people that can make things happen
Online bitching - When it gets to the broken record stage it can be tiresome
Comment by Sean — Apr 11, 2007 @ 6:13 pm
I love edgy articles that encourage debate and opinion but can’t stand biased fanboyism. By that I mean people who will say bad things about a game because of the platform it is on or will constantly go on about how much better ‘their’ platform is.
We’re all gamers, a good game is a good game. I own all three next-gen consoles because my choice is to get every great game there is. PS3 has MGS, Xbox has Mass Effect, Wii has Mario. It’s all different, it’s all good, so let’s just get along.
P.S: LOLZ SONY F’IN SUX FTW!!!!11!!!!! ROFMAO!!!!1!
Comment by Ben Furneaux — Apr 11, 2007 @ 6:15 pm
I’m genuinely tired of the negative fanboyism. It used to amuse me, but now it’s just an unlimited source of dull, repetitive, uninteresting, mostly lies, yadda-yadda nonsenseness.
The sad part is that all this people who devote their lives to bitch about ‘their enemy’ on the message boards expend much more time doing that than playing games.
Also, words like viral marketing and viral campaign hadn’t formed out of thin air. They exist, but I don’t know if there’s some lucky one that gains money embarrassing himself on the internet.
Comment by Omaesan — Apr 11, 2007 @ 6:20 pm
Fanboy = boring!!!
Comment by farz — Apr 11, 2007 @ 6:23 pm
i personally don’t like fanboys, as they completely forget the whole meaning of gaming, and community of gamers. gaming is about enjoyment and being related to a community of people that love gaming too, people you can relate to you. but nowadays is become more like the war. which side you on. there is no apprication of different styles of platform of gaming, i have all three nextgen consoles, so i worked and earned all the consloes. fine, if you can only get one system, look at what you want, but please don’t justify your purchase, by insulting the other systems and thats how most fanboys are formed. im not saying health compertion is wrong, but there are extreme fanboys out there whom get pleasure out of hating on other systems.
PSN: TheDirector
XBL: THE D1RECTOR
Comment by thedirector — Apr 11, 2007 @ 6:27 pm
Does it add to the excitement of gaming?
No
Comment by Sean — Apr 11, 2007 @ 6:39 pm
I’ve never understood the blind devotion to one particular platform. “I like multinational corporation X more than multinational corporation Y” is a ridiculous argument.
Like everyone else here on ThreeSpeech, I’m a gamer. I don’t care if I’m playing games on my PS3, 360, Wii, PC or any other console for that matter. Negatives and fanboyism is childish and pathetic.
Comment by Pete Cullen — Apr 11, 2007 @ 6:39 pm
I think a good dose of hyperbole is great. Especially in the lead-up to a new game release or a console launch. I love the excitement.
Stupid, blind fanboys are ok as they give us something to laugh and throw stones at!
Comment by Lord Mooch — Apr 11, 2007 @ 6:42 pm
Virtually everyone on here (me included) is a “fanboy” - as in we’re a fan of videogames. Never quite understood that one as a negative.
For me the negativity/bitching problem comes when rumour, hype and more rumour spreads round the Internet. In that environment, everyone’s “hyped” up all the time, and everyone’s sniping at each other.
Worse, this type of behaviour - aggressive posturing - is spreading across to online gaming. Racism, homophobia, bad language etc. are rife on games/consoles where headsets are common. How Sony will tackle that in the PS3 Home, for instance, will be interesting.
If the future is social spaces, how do we police them so they’re interesting but not full of shouting?
Si M
Comment by PsiMonk — Apr 11, 2007 @ 6:49 pm
It annoys the hell out of me. Go to any single YouTube video about the PS3 - an advert for example, and the number of people just posting “PS3 SUX LOLZ!!!!111!!oneoneeleven” - its astonishing. I like debate, but its impossible when every reply is something like that. I saw a forum topic about Oblivion, and somone pointing out the PS3 advantages. It wasnt supposed to be an attack on other systems, it was just telling those interested what the PS3 version would have. Of course, this instantly turned in to a massive fight, for some reason ending up with two people constantly bitching about the load times of BluRay vs DVD.
Then, when you personally get insulted just because of the console brand you prefer or own? Jeez, it just takes the piss. “LOL GO HAV FUN WIT UR GAYSTATION 3 YOU FAG!11!!1!”… yeah, right. Apart from sites like Gamesey, its totally spoilt talking about gaming on forums. You can’t start a topic without the usual idiots replying, totally spoiling it.
Agreed, its funny to watch idiots from both ’sides’ if you will, fight it out with “roflmfaololol wii sux” “no you noob ps3 is gay 360 FTW!!11!!” but it does get annoying when it affects the people who are like those posting in here now.
I think there are companies who are using this as an oppertunity to do viral marketing to some extent… but where they would stop I’m not sure.
There is an awful lot more towards Sony at the moment than any other brand - whether this will die down in the next year or not, I’m not sure. One thing is for sure, there will always be idiots like this on the internet.
Comment by Tom Eccles — Apr 11, 2007 @ 7:19 pm
Fanboys and negativity are highly annoying. Part of me is wondering these days whether the person typing these comments behind their computer is part of Microsoft’s multi-billion dollar viral marketing campaign (3.6 billion last I heard). Not saying I believe everyone is, I just wonder how many negative comments I’ve seen that were essentially paid for by Microsoft.
For those disenchanted with most message boards, I invite you to check out http://www.ps3forums.com It’s been going now for several years and we have a great group of members and good discussions there. The other sides are also represented quite well on there.
Comment by PSN- andycapps — Apr 11, 2007 @ 7:31 pm
Its simply the result of being uncertain. If anything, reading a rant about how something sucks for no good reason is a test in patience and the ability to ignore things that shouldn’t effect you. But unfortunately we respond far more to ‘News’ that is negative or insanely stupid only because we let it.
Comment by KomradAndre — Apr 11, 2007 @ 7:37 pm
Passion is one thing but all this stupidity over sales figures and the like is insane. It doesn’t take a genius to work out that a good percentage of the negative postings on here are by Microsoft paid seeders. And FFS, its not even as if 3speech is massively pro PS3 all of the time!!!
Comment by Nine Found — Apr 11, 2007 @ 7:37 pm
Get on nerves as much as it can. I do not condem all, who play on x360, but making a site bout pl3 only and recieving only warm f*** from the (jealous?) x360 owners does get on my nerves. Fanboys/fangirls - please sit down and shut up!
Comment by arabek — Apr 11, 2007 @ 7:41 pm
Fanboy bollox makes you wish ugc and forums had never been invented……….
Comment by PCW — Apr 11, 2007 @ 7:45 pm
@13. Rumor is Xbox have different seeding teams. Ones who post the short, only semi literate ‘ps sux’ type stuff. Ones who post the supposedly reasonable well-argued points which just so happen to always favor Xbox. And ones who suddenly changes camp, going from being pro PlayStation to pro Xbox. Add that package together and you can see the damage they are trying to do
Comment by fixtheweb — Apr 11, 2007 @ 7:49 pm
I think the most annoying aspect of anybody’s postings be it fanboy or not is if they are misinformed because there is nothing worse than someone trying to prove their points with bad information. The negativity is annoying also because it approaches the level of spam, where you just don’t even care to read people’s drivel and have to sort through the mess to get to the good informative posts. I’m glad Sony does not respond to each and every single attack on them and choose to react with positive actions (focusing on delivering their products and achieving their business goals) vs. negative reaction (bad mouthing a competitor in an interview).
Comment by nmc75 — Apr 11, 2007 @ 8:04 pm
I don’t mind “edgy” articles, just as long as they’re written in a smart, mature tone like next-gen.biz or Gamasutra. In fact I actually prefer those sites over gaming blogs like Kotaku and Joystiq but that’s not to say that I don’t love reading them for their entertainment value.
So in all, Sensationalist, Yellow Journalism adds to the excitement of the game industry when the news is relevant and is presented in an logical way, but it can get annoying quickly when you want just the facts or continue to hear the same negative bitching over and over.
PSN: Neil
Comment by Neil — Apr 11, 2007 @ 8:10 pm
ILL STOP BITCHING WHEN SONY GIVES ME FREAKING IN GAME XMB THERES A WHOLE PETITION ON IT
http://www.petitiononline.com/ps3xmb/petition.html
ABOUT 2000 SIGNATURES AND SONY’S ASS STILL WONT EVEN RESPOND TO IT! I HAVE UH NO COMMENT TO MAKE! STFU! THERE LAZY ASSESS SHOULD HAVE MADE THIS AT LAUNCH LIKE PROMISED, BUT THEY SUCK.
LOW FEATURES = LOW FANBASE = LESS CONSOLES SOLD = LESS EXCLUSIVES = LESS GAMES = HOME WONT SAVE YOUR ASS = GAME OVER SONY = BLURAY FINISHED
Comment by SONY SUCKS — Apr 11, 2007 @ 8:12 pm
Ha! Gotta love the topic–looks like Sony–er–ThreeSpeech can’t take the heat!!!
Frankly, I was/am a big PSX/PS2 fan, and I owned all three systems. I bought into it all, including their ‘underground’ on the main corporate site (instead of their corporate blog here), beta-tested games, etc.
People gripe and moan about comments I’ve made, but not only have I been spot on about quite a few things (especially the GTA IV trailer being direct from the XBox 360), but I’m tired of all of the blind Sony fanboyism going on too.
Frankly, I’ve been nothing but offended by Sony treating its video game fans as blatant ATMs for their whoring out of Blu-Ray. Add to that the fact that this generation of gaming is all about online (something that @ Home isn’t going to fix for Sony–sorry, but I’ve already played Second Life, and a game-within-a-game crap doesn’t fly with someone that just wants to get online and play.)
Crap comments from Sony’s (ignorant) Top Brass about ‘having to work harder’ for their system and that Americans are ‘cheap’ really don’t help to endear themselves (or the products they’re trying to sell) to the public.
Add to that the whole PSX site debacle, the fact that this site won’t admit that it’s a blatant direct mouthpiece for Sony despite the site being owned by a company Sony contracted for advertising…and I’ll gladly take the devil I know (360) and its actual lineup of AAA titles and cheaper price point (that pumps out just as good graphics, gameplay, and a better online experience) than the devil I don’t know (Sony) because they’ve done nothing but lie and belittle their customers. Yeah, Microsoft has done some questionable things, but at least they’ve owned up to them and they don’t sit there and belittle their customers.
Oh and did I mention that the Microsoft devil is $200 cheaper than the Sony one?
Comment by Matt — Apr 11, 2007 @ 8:12 pm
I hope everyone sees why I view a lot of negative posts and posts where someone claims to be a lifelong supporter of Sony until the PS3. Post #19 is an example. Maybe it’s legit, maybe not. There’s really no way of knowing whether they’re on the MS “viral marketing” payroll or not. Ah yes, the joys of “teh interwebs”.
Comment by PSN- andycapps — Apr 11, 2007 @ 8:22 pm
There’s loads of good (well, half good) oniine journalism that’s ultimately biased in one way or other but that’s so very different than GatesBox and their very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very boring campaign to bombard the web with anti Sony messages
Comment by Don't Miss the Rumble — Apr 11, 2007 @ 8:42 pm
@19
Yeah, hmmmm, right, I’m sure Sony isn’t working on that feature already at all.
Get a grip man, the team are working on it. They don’t need, dare I say “n00bs” (?!) like you telling them that I’m sure…
Comment by Ben Furneaux — Apr 11, 2007 @ 8:43 pm
@19 is an example of extreme fanboism, yes i agree to the xmb issue, but hey, the console just launched, chill out, are you dieing with out the in game xmb. negativity will do nothing, once again a fanboy comes in to a gamer community post, and acts like an ass. however Matt has given his opinion a more weighted in way, i do admit your comments are too pro 360, but u give reason. where as number 19….. have a clue mate.
PSN: TheDirector
XBL: THE D1RECTOR
Comment by thedirector — Apr 11, 2007 @ 8:58 pm
Fanboys rock!
Saw GTAIV P$3 version compared to the 360 and the 360 looked much cleaner with a higher fps. Plus the dlc already decided is quite good which is a bonus for 360 fans.
Comment by ukr — Apr 11, 2007 @ 8:59 pm
DONT DENY THAT SONY IS LAZY AND CANT EVEN GET IN GAME XMB IN. WHAT THE FUCK HAPPEND TO THE CELL PROCESSOR? SONY SAID IT WOULD REVOLUTIONIZE THE WHOLE COMPUTER INDUSTRY BUT SONY IS THE ONLY ONE USING IT AND IT MUST TRULY BADLY SUCK IF IT CAN’T DO SIMPLE MULTITASKING. THE CRAPBOX180 CAN DO MULTITASKING SINCE RELEASE BUT THE GAYSTATION2.5 CANT EVEN 6 MONTHS LATER! WHAT ABOUT THE GREAT MARCH UPDATE? FAILURE…IF SONY DOESNT ADD IN GAME XMB BY DEC.31/07 I WILL BUY AN ELITE CONSOLE.
Comment by SONY SUCKS — Apr 11, 2007 @ 9:07 pm
@20, of course Sony would treat their fans like their walking ATMs. THEY ARE A BUSINESS. Where did this delusion come from that they need to be nice to you? Just because it’s a different industry doesn’t mean they should bend over backwards to make you happy. So what they boast? Does is effect YOU or they GAMES you play? No. I hate that stupid shit like Nintendo doesn’t try to screw you over with a 60 dollar controller and Microsoft with the microtransactions. Hell, at least Sony is being more upfront with the crap that they pull.
Comment by Malik C. — Apr 11, 2007 @ 9:09 pm
@25 - how much did Xbox pay ya?
Comment by Yawn — Apr 11, 2007 @ 9:14 pm
Kinda sad so many anti-Sony fanboys must troll this board. Shows how shallow their own lives are.
Comment by Shuba — Apr 11, 2007 @ 9:16 pm
XBOX DIDNT PAY ME SHIT IM JUST SO MAD THAT SONY CANT EVEN ACKNOWELDGE OUR SITUATIONS. THIS IS A FREAKING FEATURE GAMERS WANT BUT THEY’LL MAKE UP A GAY EXCUSE LIKE I REALLY DONT THINK ITS EFFICIENT FOR IN GAMESOUNDTRACKS. WE LIKE TO LEAVE THE MUSIC UP TO THE DEVELOPERS SO THEY CAN CREATE SONGS THAT WILL LEAVE YOU IMMERSED IN THE EXPERIENCE. YEAH MY ASS YOU STUPID PHIL.
Comment by SONY SUCKS — Apr 11, 2007 @ 9:16 pm
part of the problem is we have more invested in the ps3… literally. I finally broke down and purchased one (I said I was probably waiting in an earlier post), so I’ve got more than double the money invested in it than any other console I’ve owned. I think the same is true to a lesser extant to the xbox360 fans… they’ve invested a large chunk of change and want to see their purchase justified.
The idiocy of Sony execs doesn’t help. Sure, the MS execs aren’t the brightest, but having a Sony exec call into question the exclusivity of FF 13, possibly the most important exclusive game Sony has is about the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Even if Squeenix was thinking multi-platform, you DON’T HINT AT IT IF YOU’RE SONY.
And when the #1 complaint by far is price, and Sony quietly drops the cheaper model with no word on a cheap replacement, yeah, there’s going to be problems (over and above the obvious viral marketing crap).
The frustrating thing is the ps3 is capable of so much, and I see it doing so little. I love that I can copy media onto it, but it’d be better if it could access files over the network. I love that it can play downloaded videos, but it’d be much better if it could play .avi, .mkv, .ogg, and so on. The xmb is a very good interface, but it’ll need a folder hierarchy soon. These are minor things that could be handled easily, with politics being the major holdback.
Gamewise, Sony’s got a slew of really great games coming, all due for September. Eh? That’s nuts. It’d be really nice to have some decent games to play over the summer.
@20: Yeah, and it’d be great if the AAA 360 lineup had anything I wanted to play. I hate FPS games, doubly so on consoles. I love jrpgs… you tell me what system I should get. Oh, and I want a high-definition video player too, even though I don’t have an HDTV yet, I plan to get one soon.
Comment by androvsky — Apr 11, 2007 @ 9:18 pm
@16
That’s just plain scary. It’s almost devilish.
Going with your theory, @19 is a representant of #1st group, the semi-literate, and @20 we have a representant of #3rd group, the side-changer.
Pity that all the crap talked on the web doesn’t affect reality one bit. I’ve confirmed it with the PS3 launch.
Comment by Omaesan — Apr 11, 2007 @ 9:19 pm
Nice to see 3Speech trying to have a rational debate on this. A pity that “Sony Sucks” is demonstrating the hold that MS has over its fanboys, rendering them incapable of typing in mixed case, putting together an intelligent argument, or thinking for themselves.
Fanboys can be amusing, but for all the talk of “Sony fanboys” I still have to see anyone acting in the same way as the XBox crowd. PS3 owners tend to just get on and play their console, whereas the XBox contingent seem to spend most of their time bashing the PS3. I wonder if they are just insecure?
Comment by brokenHaiku — Apr 11, 2007 @ 9:21 pm
And for CAPSBOY, chill. It’s not that big a feature. You want in-game music that badly, turn the in-game music to zero and play a cd on your stereo, good Lord man.
Comment by androvsky — Apr 11, 2007 @ 9:22 pm
33 says - “Fanboys can be amusing, but for all the talk of “Sony fanboys†I still have to see anyone acting in the same way as the XBox crowd. PS3 owners tend to just get on and play their console, whereas the XBox contingent seem to spend most of their time bashing the PS3. I wonder if they are just insecure?”
You don’t see PS3 owners doing this because PS3 owners arent being paid to do it - unlike the case with M/Soft. I can see no other rational argument why Xbox owners would have such an issue with a console which doesn’t really concern them as they’re not even into it!!
Comment by I hate Spurs — Apr 11, 2007 @ 9:35 pm
Was never fanboys until Microsoft showed up in gaming..
Enough said.
Comment by hhg — Apr 11, 2007 @ 9:43 pm
The only bright side to fanboys is they are such a small group that all the complaining doesn’t really matter.
Sure 360 fans are loud. But they are still small group and shrinking.
My main problem with bias and fanboys is the blogs they are less credible then anonymous forum posts. When you have MS doing payper post, handing out laptops and offering cash for negative posts on competition is when I get pissed. More so knowing that the ones that make the news are the only ones getting caught.
Complaining about custom in game music is legit, but crying like a baby about it and threatening to buy another system invalidates your opinion really. It will come if enough people want it. We already got background downloads, much faster then MS added it to 360s.
With all the negative Sony news the last year it is nice to see MS’s reputation starting to get dragged through the mud. They are also in for a rough ride this summer and no amount of paid bloggers can stem that.
Comment by Shuba — Apr 11, 2007 @ 9:46 pm
I have a whole big post waiting to be pasted but Ill do a shorter one for now. I am a PS fan. Have been and will be. I am holding out on the PS3 purely for the price and nothing else. I dont intend getting the Wii or the 360 in the meantime. That said, the biggest problem here and hopefully Sony is reading this is that the Web is way more powerful than they think.
Bad publicity especially in blogs (joystiq/kotaku/neogaf) will kill products. Thanks to some bad PR efforts at start, the PS3 got nailed. It hasnt stood up since then. Every good PR exercise (LBP, Home) is followed by a bad one (DMC4). Also, the main 360 demographic of 12 yr old kids waiting to use words they cant use anywhere else helps the cause.
Fanboys are a real pain. But unfortunately, they scream the loudest and with the blog world, the loudest is heard the fastest. The Sony PR machine needs to be completely rethought of ( I am sure even a noob like me can do a better job :)) and a price cut would help.
Comment by PSFan — Apr 11, 2007 @ 9:58 pm
Well done threespeech for facilitating this debate. Hee hee, you’re a strange one, hard to pin down, and I get the impression you annoy microsoft no end!!
Comment by Branner Axe — Apr 11, 2007 @ 10:12 pm
Fanboys or at least how i see them are people people who blindly follow a console/game/developer/OS/etc.
I am all for people being loyal to things, i myself am very loyal to socom:3/C.A., but i still recognize it’s faults and good parts.
I really hate when people who blindly follow xbox live, mainly cause Microsoft is obviously trying to turn it into a cash cow, with the pay-to-:
-cheat
-play
-watch(demos, it is coming soon)
-play(demos)
When things like that should be free. Like what sony is doing.
Comment by -soul_reaper- — Apr 11, 2007 @ 10:19 pm
“Not only that but apparently, Microsoft went on and hired a small group of people in their 20s to praise the X-Box 360 when shown at the X-Box Conference Show. Ouch.
And the normal crowd caught on and wasn’t too pleased. I was watching the Conference footage and wasn’t too impressed. These people would clap and cheer as the announcer would announce several X-Box 360 titles or the features of X-Box Live 2.0, meanwhile the normal audience looks on and hardly makes a sound.”
http://www.1up.com/do/my1Up?publicUserId=5598001 and http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/619/619568p1.html
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Comment by Sir Cedric — Apr 11, 2007 @ 10:35 pm
Its inane really. I do understand how & why a person might feel biased to a particular brand. Everyone wants to be a part of something, to feel like they stand for some ideal or cause (regardless how trivial). That doesn’t bug me one bit. What grinds my gears (not those of the Epic variety) is the degrading of another person’s preferences. That’s when it becomes too immature to tolerate. Why should I insult someone because they like different games than I do? Some gamers take games WAY to personal. It all really stems from self-esteem, in my opinion. Those diehard rabid fanboys that are always flaming others on msg boards are the ones that can’t figure out how to “fit in” in real life. Fanboyism is their escape.
Comment by MistahMention — Apr 11, 2007 @ 11:01 pm
Hmm. I think that Fanboy comments are, to some extent, an understandable reaction. No-one wants to think that they have spent a large amount of money on hardware and software that isn’;t the best available, That’s why at the moment is more of a Sony vs MS debate. The Wii sits in it’s own space really.
Having owned an Xbox 360 and Sony PS3 I can see a lot of sense in what both sides say. But at the end of the day if I go to a PS3 forum i would rather it concentrated on the positives of the system, rather than taking cheap shots at a rival one.
Comment by Bendz — Apr 11, 2007 @ 11:01 pm
I feel its a bit harsh to pin bad press on Fanboys, after all who in there right mind pays attention to them
The bad press that Microsoft & Sony attract is 95% of there own making
So ThreeSpeech as part of the machine, its in your hands
Focus on delivery not promises and all will be well
Comment by Sean — Apr 11, 2007 @ 11:12 pm
The reason Fanboys can effect the press, is with blogs becoming the main source of information for some gamers, you have in some cases fanboys running the press.
Comment by Shuba — Apr 11, 2007 @ 11:17 pm
Well all I can say is they leave a mark on the web. I personally don’t like it. I am one of those guys that owned all the systems in the past. I got married and now I can’t afford it. I dumped them all and I am t ‘t donsticking with Sony. ie they have my fav games. I say multiple good systems means great things for us gamers……compitition! So fan boys cry your cry but don’t wish for anyone to fail!
Think EA and football….jerks!
Comment by Danicking with ny — Apr 11, 2007 @ 11:54 pm
PS3 is great but it leaves a few things to be desired.
Fanboys–
negativity++ (if it has a valid point)
bitching–
Comment by Erik Arvidsosn — Apr 11, 2007 @ 11:59 pm
One website:
http://www.ukresistance.co.uk
Read and weep.
You’re all fanboys on here anyway, you wouldn’t be here if you weren’t. It’s just that half of them have been created (’semi-officially’ of course) by Sony for positive spin.
FLAME ON
Comment by Jackers — Apr 12, 2007 @ 12:24 am
This is slightly OT but I think things would settle down on ThreeSpeech if it had a bit more of a purpose. The press went mental over the whole Bioshock/Steve Boxer ‘incident’ because they don’t understand what ThreeSpeech actually is.
The best job going forward is more Q&A with Sony reps, more official exclusive news posts and I’d just love it if TS could post when content goes live on the PSN (all continents). I hate to say it but more ‘Major Nelson functionality’ would be cool.
Comment by Ben Furneaux — Apr 12, 2007 @ 1:00 am
The negative fanboys are not the problem. Since the arrival of the PS3 they feel threatened and it’s logical that a big part of them will react like this. When you are 15-25 you don’t like it if you don’t have the coolest machine any more.
Too much attention is spent on them and it ain’t worth it.
The biggest problem Sony has is the way they communicate their bloopers.
The fact that millions of Europeans don’t have access to the Playstation Store or the free content (GT HD) is tragic. More tragic is the fact that they give the impression they don’t do their best to fix this problem.
I have 2 playstations, 1 pocketstation, 1 PS2 and one PS3 which is a clear indication of my love for the brand but after paying 659 euros (Greece) only to find out the same evening that i am considered a second class customer by Sony and don’t have access to stuff that other PS3 owners have makes me furious!
Is it difficult to make a Greek Playstation Store? You need more time? Fine, Just send me to a page where i can download GTHD or some other free content.
Is that so damn impossible to do? It would make many PS3 owners very very happy.
Sony NEEDS to show that it cares…
Comment by Miltos — Apr 12, 2007 @ 2:16 am
Threespeech,
I think you’re doing an excellent job in general. Please disregard some of the over-the-top backhanded comments here. At least some of these individuals appear to be motivated by a strong desire to tarnish one of the few positive channels for PS3 news. This is not unexpected.
Comment by onanie — Apr 12, 2007 @ 2:30 am
I’m convinced that there are a band of people who spend 90% of thier time writing about games and 10% playing them. When I get sick of reading crap I just switch on my console, that’s where consumers make a difference, not on negative message boards.
Comment by hugZ — Apr 12, 2007 @ 3:15 am
Seriously guys have you heard yourselves?
Whenever I want to laugh I just need to come to this blog and read the comments. Utterly hilarious.
You wouldnt think it was a gaming blog like Major Nelson - it appears to be a place where gaming fans can come and bitch about Microsoft or Sony.
Anyways, for the record;
Microsofts ‘viral marketing campaign’ is an urban myth.
For heavens sake, theres too many people on here who need to have ‘an answer’ or ‘a reason’ for something. Some things just cannot be justified Im afraid.
Why cant the Sony loyalists just deal with the fact that theres a lot of people in the gaming world who are against the playstation brand now?
And the idiot who said fanboys only cropped up since the arrival of Microsoft in the gaming arena need to go back and re sit their history exams. People forget the old Sega vs Nintendo war of the early nineties.
Instead of pointing the finger at Microsoft all the time - why dont you consider Nintendo being part of the equation?
It was Nintendo who created the ‘fanboys’ and ‘Nintards’ of this world - noone else.
Theres bad blood between the Nintendo and Sony, most notably harking back to E3 2006 when Sony unveiled its sixaxis controller, which was arguably ‘copied’ off Nintendo’s approach with the Wii.
You ask any die hard Nintendo fan what they think of Playstation and I can guarantee that their response will contain negativity and copius amounts of foul language.
Lets also not forget the Sega fans who solely blame Playstation for the demise of Sega.
Why does it have to be ‘MS vs Sony’?
Its clearly not the case.
Get over yourselves guys, stop bitching and moaning on here, stop providing me with plenty of laughs and go enjoy your games on your 360/PS3/Wii or whatever respective console you own. Do something constructive and worthwhile.
Play games.
Comment by MadDog128 — Apr 12, 2007 @ 3:17 am
MadDog128: Oh yes, I very much remember the Dreamcast vs. PS2 war… still have the scars. Ended up hating the PS2 for at least a year or two until I got one and a steady stream of awesome games.
Comment by androvsky — Apr 12, 2007 @ 3:26 am
I wish we could just ignore the biased, witless, and endlessly negative members of the gaming community and gaming press, but clearly that hasn’t been working with Sony’s relatively quiet approach to PR. Rumors fly across the internet at ridiculous speeds and only pick up more BS as they get passed around, and most gamers these days are so on-edge and excitable they find the smallest things to freak out about…
I don’t think anybody knows what to do about the state of the community/press these days, all I can do is hang my head in shame that I aspire to design games for these same people :-/ Then I actually PLAY the games I own and I remember why I love games and want to make them
Cheers!
Comment by Matthew — Apr 12, 2007 @ 3:27 am
I don’t like the fanboyism in any way, I think it is just plain annoying and whether or not it is company’s posting these comments all of them just need to stop.
Comment by greever86 — Apr 12, 2007 @ 3:27 am
Microsofts ‘viral marketing campaign’ is not an urban myth:
1. “Another day, another sad attempt by Microsoft for a viral marketing campaigh. Yeah, that I Love Bees campaign worked really well for them, but since then they have a new gig every damn week.”
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/peripherals/microsoft-viral-marketing-gaming-hardware-194846.php
2. “August 22, 2005 - This weekend Microsoft launched a cryptic new web site at origenxbox360.com. The site is composed of a single page of flash showing a tree, a green bunny, and a numerical countdown in the background. This sort of thing is old hat to gamers already acquainted with Microsoft’s previous viral marketing campaigns ilovebees and ourcolony.”
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/644/644110p1.html
Comment by Sir Cedric — Apr 12, 2007 @ 3:38 am
I guess fanboyism is a part of growing up and developing, like babies at a certain age put objects in their mouth.
May I use this oppurtunity to ask a few questions about the EU PlaystationStore: Where is the GTAIV trailer? Spider-Man 3 trailers? Armored Core demo? When is Mortal Kombat coming?
PSN id LastNinja
Comment by LastNinja — Apr 12, 2007 @ 3:53 am
I’m a hardcore Sony fanboy. Having worked for a competitor of MS, I’ve got a healthy hate on for them and their FUD machine.
However, instead of jibber-jabbering about it, I converted to Mac and won’t buy a 360 (although Gears looks pretty sweet).
IMO, throwing my support behind a company by buying its products (PS2, PS3, 50″ Wega) is a more powerful message than a bitchy anti-MS post (although I’ve got an awful lot of ammo).
PSN: dorellie
Folding@home team: 34479 (Penny Arcade)
Comment by dorellie — Apr 12, 2007 @ 4:26 am
it’s because of rabid fanboyism that i stay away from most gaming forums and blogs these days. it’s hard to parse through all the crap to get to the insightful comments. the signal-to-noise ratio is sadly far, far too low… and that goes for ALL sides of the so-called ‘war’, no matter where your loyalties lie.
i don’t think there’s anything wrong with being devoted to your platform(s) of choice, but i wish people would remember that all of the platforms have strengths and weaknesses, and can be discussed rationally without resorting to juvenile name-calling and trash-talking.
(ah, who am i kidding. but i can wish, right?)
Comment by bunnyhero — Apr 12, 2007 @ 4:46 am
But whats the point in bitching about the xbox 360 or PS3 or anything for that matter?
Especially on here! Its an internet blog ffs, the people that dont see or read this blog far outweigh those who contribute to it in any shape or form.
Whats the point?
It should be all about the games. Buy the console you want, or buy all 3, just enjoy the games and appreciate each console for what they are. Theyre all great in their own way - why the need to bitch?
Get a grip people.
Everyone has their own opinion and reasons for buying whichever console, and in this day and age unless people are offered a cash bribe, or are threatened with military action… then its difficult to change their minds!
Comment by MadDog128 — Apr 12, 2007 @ 4:47 am
Anyone else think microsoft’s underhand campaig is running out of momentum now? if feels like they’re punching out at random. You’ve lost your strategy boys and the tide is turning…
Comment by eastlondon23 — Apr 12, 2007 @ 8:35 am
Negativity / bitching about other consoles is pointless and immature. I made a decision to buy a PS3. I would like the PS3 to sell well so that developers continue to develop games for it. However, I think there is room in the market for more than one console. Each console is good in its own right. I would buy them all if I had the money!
Comment by reakt — Apr 12, 2007 @ 9:20 am
I switch on my PS3, I play, I enjoy what I play, end of story. I too like the PS brand and have done since 1994. MS is massive, too big and powerful and I’m sure, pretty evil too. I won’t buy XBOX because I feel MS is evil. PS3 is new, later firmware updates will address issues I’m sure but for me, I’m happy and look forward to what comes next. The sad little children who bitch are just that, children and they will in time grow up and get a life.
Comment by Neil — Apr 12, 2007 @ 9:51 am
1. Viral marketing is not the same as paying people to pose as fanboys and post on forums. I’d be genuinely fascinated if anyone does have any cold, hard evidence that there is anyone in the world paid by Microsoft, or one of their PR or marketing companies, to post anti-Sony, pro-Microsoft comments on web forums. Please, do get in touch with your evidence (details at http://www.pspsps.tv), it’d be the story of the year! But I’m not holding my breath - if these folks did exist, someone would have posted up a substantiated story about them by now, surely.
2. Paid clappers and whoopers at E3 - everyone appears to do it apart from Nintendo. For some reason, grown American journalists appear quite happy to do it for free for them. There’s, I think, a line between trying to “amp” up the crowd at one of your events, which I’m pretty sure Sony does (and Microsoft definitely does), and, for instance, paying someone to turn up at a rival’s press conference and boo/heckle.
3. Sony is as guilty of hyping the system as everyone else. Their E3 ‘05 MotorStorm/Resistance video debacle (they passed off concept work as in-game), for instance, was responsible for a massive wave of negativity and bitching. It is perhaps part of the nature of an industry that wants to see itself as young, hip and edgy. If games weren’t founded so much on hyped up previews, bartered for review scores, fakes screenshots and videos, dripfeeds of rumour etc. then you probably wouldn’t see so much bitching and negativity. But would games be as interesting either?
Si M
http://www.pspsps.tv
Comment by PsiMonk — Apr 12, 2007 @ 11:02 am
Personally i find that more gaming websites are becoming biased and fanboyish, if a game is coming out on both XBOX and PS3 the site will push the XBOX article posting it on the frontpage whilst the PS3 article doesn’t get a mention, i think this just fuels the conception that games are coming out for a certain platform, i have seen this happen with the Wii also, and make fanboys of one platform descend into a comparison of lighting particles and shadowing techniques (something most people wont have the time to admire when blasting through a game) over the other system. I find it rather sad that we spend all this time defending a machine rather then playing on it and enjoying it.
It might be that the XBOX version is further along in development and so they have more to show but in a suttle way i think they are pushing one platform over another.
I find myself visiting sites like this one and other forums more ane more where the debate is more focused and open minded. I feel its time to stop comparing and actually report on the games strengths or weaknesses for each system, at least that way when i buy the game i don’t feel ripped off or cheated because some game website is payed backhanders to over rate a game on a particular platform.
Comment by Nathaniel — Apr 12, 2007 @ 11:35 am
Miltos, can you not just set up a new user account putting in a UK address and download the FREE content? I know it works for others……….
Oh and on topic, it is quite sad and annoying, but what can you do?
I had a 360 but started to enjoy it less and less as the people online were mostly annoying and without being racist American. At least with the PS3 I can play online with people who have more in common and don’t ruin the experience.
I used to love reading Joystiq but its got to the point now where even the news stories are trivial and bias, about the only decent place left is Eurogamer.
In short the web has gone mad, but its only a small fraction of the people.
Comment by INFORMIX — Apr 12, 2007 @ 12:43 pm
“What’s your take on fanboys, negativity, online bitching etc?” talk about having words put in mouth! I mean what is anyone suppose to say to that! anything negative is well, negative.
I thaught ThreeSpeech was a play on words for free speech, so let it ‘flow’ godamit!
Comment by Kal.l — Apr 12, 2007 @ 12:47 pm
Well it’s not a great trait to have but when some people see a car crash they want to stand and point
Also in the context of playstation 3 in my opinion there are an awful lot of people who feel due to the UK RRP that Sony are robbing them blind (compared to other markets - we should all know Sony stand to make lots of liscencing cash after initial losses) and genuinely want to warn the more naive out there their lack of value shopping does nothing for us UK consumers.
I feel incredibly let down that Sony have expected me as one of their consumers to shell out £425 when a version for £170 exists in Japan
That kind of action has turned a lot of consumers against Sony, and rightfully so……true fanboyism can be annoying, pointing out sales figures of other companies like blowing a raspberry, but you have plenty of fanboys here you seem to love, like anyone who went to 3rooms..
Comment by Basil Brush — Apr 12, 2007 @ 1:10 pm
I don’t think anyone could be naive enough to believe that MSFT isn’t paying people to astroturf. They have a long history of it.
e.g. an old article with a lot of links: http://www.inlumineconsulting.com:8080/website/msft.shilling.html
I’m sure they’ve got more subtle with it these days - e.g. see #16. There seems to be a good representation of all those types in this thread.
It isn’t just the game media - media in general is almost getting to the point that you can no longer tell fact from fiction, or sponsored content from investigated facts.
There’s nothing wrong with being enthusiastic about something - but the constant boorish abuse of just about any game news at all is getting tiring very fast. People also don’t like to think they bought the wrong thing, and will defend their purchase, often vociferously. But it does seem a bit over the top lately, and it does suck.
Sony seems to be getting an unfair amount of it too - for no obvious reason.
Cost? Hardly a reason to get so worked up - unless it’s just jealousy. If you can’t afford a couple of games price difference, how many games are you going to buy anyway? Sorry to say it, you were never in the market for either machine. Go buy a PS2 - great library of games that get cheaper all the time - and LOTS of other people are doing it (or a Wii, but the games are more expensive and considerably more limited for the foreseeable future).
“sony’s arrogance”? What did they say? This thing cost a lot to make so it’s going to be expensive, and people are going to buy it anyway? Sounds more like a fact of life than real arrogance … and again if you weren’t going to buy one anyway, why would you care?
Tall poppy syndrome? (wanting to ‘cut down’ the leader/high achiever). Only maybe as a side-effect of jealousy again. TPS doesn’t happen in consumer culture so much, everyone wants to be with the winner instead (e.g. ps2, or ipod).
I’ve never been a huge fan of Sony stuff, mostly because of cost and it’s proprietary nature. But I bought a (’fat’) PS2 and it’s been fun - and reliable. My overpriced shitty dvd player started scratching discs, and although the picture was better when it didn’t, it’s no use to me now. I’ll get a PS3 one day soon - once I get a decent TV. I think the technology is fascinating (as was the PS2’s), the hardware seems to be built well, and I like the mix of games on the predecessor, and the ability to run Linux on it is a plus for me personally.
I really can’t understand the constant negativity against absolutely *everything* Sony does. If the press just loves bad news - where are all the stories about no games lately for the Wii (don’t make out it isn’t a problem, I know a couple of guys with them and that’s their main gripe)? What about some mainstream press for what seems to be the absolutely miserable reliability of XBox 360 consoles? (or is that just spin?) A batch or two of PS3 boxes have a whine and it’s all over the internet within hours?
Comment by mpz — Apr 12, 2007 @ 2:24 pm
Lifted from the link provided by No 70:
“Conclusion: The alert reader cannot believe any pro-Microsoft opinion presented in any forum.”
Spread the mf-ing word!!!!!!
Comment by Bankole Ben — Apr 12, 2007 @ 2:29 pm
Ben Funeaux- Completely agree with your post. I don’t think this site should be used for previews or reviews that are just hosted by other sites. If a preview is posted here, it should be a real exclusive that IGN, Gamespot, 1UP, Eurogamer, etc. do not have.
Be honest about who is posting on this site, and for God’s sake, if you’re going to post something about Bioshock being released for PS3, at least make sure it’s right prior to posting it. It makes a blog lose credibility when they are proven wrong.
What I would rather see it become is an actual mouthpiece for Sony’s future plans. For an example, we know that Home Beta is supposed to start with a closed beta for 15k PS3 owners this month. We don’t know when registrations will start, we don’t know what the selection process is, we don’t know if the 15k is a firm number or if that’s just Sony’s guess of how many will sign up. It’s obvious that they’ll be using this time to work out bugs and test server capacity, latency, etc. It’s also obvious that it’s easier to work these things out with a smaller, controlled number of people than it is to just have a free-for-all. Some more info on that would be great.
Another thing that would be GREAT to have is knowing what is on deck for future firmware updates. Examples are: DVD upscaling, in-game access to XMB, possible upgrade of the software for the wi-fi in the 60g PS3 (mine does not seem to get as good of a signal as a laptop sitting right next to it), and Sixaxis disconnections (can it be fixed through a firmware update and is there a timeline on this?).
Maybe this site could be used to announce new exclusive PS3 games that we are not aware of or may have forgotten about (Wardevil, Eight Days, Parabellum, etc). Maybe it could be used to give details on the next Eyetoy and what features it will enable in PS3 games (with some examples of pictures and video footage). What I would like to see here is a focus on the worldwide Playstation community and not just the European community. We Americans have Playstation Underground, but I’ve never really learned that much from that. Mainly just press announcements and saying when products are available.
This is just my $.02 but hope that it helps this blog out.
Comment by PSN- andycapps — Apr 12, 2007 @ 3:01 pm
I hate negativity when it just gets out of hand Eg. All caps posts ^^^ look above!
Comment by Ricky — Apr 12, 2007 @ 6:22 pm
Microsoft Astroturfs. I’m certain of it. From their channel stuffing shenanigans to get a PR point, to the countless websites that i go to and find that they have been completely taken over by Microsoft Astroturfers. I’m looking at you Joystiq. It’s gotten s bad that I had to remove them from my RSS feed. Just too much time wasted. I mean come on they complained that Sony may reward, that’s right REWARD you if you sahre your PS3 cycles for a good cause. ie F@H.
The web could be a great tool to get out the proper information or truth,but I feel that people don’t have time to set people straight and ignorance shall prevail.
Comment by mcloki — Apr 12, 2007 @ 8:29 pm
Good, good thread. Has B Gates cronies right on the run.
Comment by Belfast Steps — Apr 12, 2007 @ 10:50 pm
keep up the good work three speech. save for the occasional outbreak of fanboyism from those with nothing better (better paid?) to do, you’re a good source of information that’s come a long way in a short time and hopefully can go a lot further
Comment by crewcrue — Apr 12, 2007 @ 10:53 pm
Why is everyone going on about Microsofts viral machine one person quoting that they spen 3 billion roughly equivelent to the GDP of several countrys and more money the the XBOX has made in total. Please you sound rediculous especially as a defence of Sony the company behind I wany my PSP.
The bickering going on at the moment is due to the fact that a lot of people who love playstation came out spouting about how the PS3 would be 3 times as powerful and manage your whole household when it came out.
Right up until launch Sony were repeating how much better it was and on Forums PS people were smuggly repeating these “facts” at XBOX users it launches and as it turns out most games look and play pretty much identical. Plus you get developers claiming its a pig to program for, and Sonys Management spouting all kinds of crap, “if you want a PS3 you’ll just have to work harder” being one example.
What happens gamers turn on the people who have been mocking them for buying the “underpowered” Xbox 360.
The companies are also both guilty of comparing their products rather than selling on their own merrits, and this fuels the war.
Don’t get me wrong I am not anti Sony, it’s stupid to hate any company, but before you run your mouth off about how bad the PS3 has it go and visit some forum archives from when the 360 was released and see what the PS3 fans were saying.
Anyway thats my 2 cents.
Comment by Roco — Apr 13, 2007 @ 12:44 am
http://bluehedgehog.blogspot.com/ fanboys piss me off
Comment by Chad28 — Apr 13, 2007 @ 5:09 am
I have it on very good authority that MS in fact DO pay for anti Sony seeding. Not sure that this is the best place to share my evidence however….
Comment by a mightier mouse than you — Apr 13, 2007 @ 11:11 am
Fanboyism is the worst thing ever.
PLAYSTATION 3 may be performing badly and selling poorly because of high price but the only thing disturbing SONY is SONY itself. I believe that SONY is the one messing with itself, bad PR and people talking nonseanse should just shut up.
Everytime a SONY member says something, disaster comes out of their mouths. SONY members may sound arrogant because they truly believe in the quality of their products but they shouldn`t sound arrogant they should sound appealing.
There isn`t currently any game on the PS3 that could make stop playing FFXII or Okami and there is not a single one that could distract me from wanting GOD OF WAR II and TOMB RAIDER. Games from the PS2 that still is to me the best console on the shops, and the next-gen still hasn`t been able to beat it.
SONY just relax and take a deep breath, do what you always do because it`s always amazing stuff, you`re good at what you`re doing, PLAYSTATION shaped this industry has it is today and made an entire generation fell in love with games, if it wasn`t for the PLAYSTATION and SONY there would be no XBOX or even maybe Nintendo consoles, SONY showed the world the power of this industry.
Microsoft, thank you for your great work and wonderfull games keep up on doing an amazing job, Nintendo you are unique and to me you carry that japanese spirit that we all need.
All companies do amazing things people just have to decide wich appeal to them more.
Comment by Playfree — Apr 13, 2007 @ 2:11 pm
A multiplatform title like Edge or GamesTM is a good place for a debate about fanboyism, however a Sony funded or part funded PS3 blog is soo not the right place to gain an objective view…
I hope you gain a lot from it but from what i’ve seen above people are saying things like ‘if a title comes out on Xbox and PS3 the magazines are all focussing on the Xbox version’ waaa! - no they are not shut up and go back to stroking the console that replaced £425 of your hard earned - value shoppers…
Comment by Basil Brush — Apr 13, 2007 @ 2:15 pm
Hey, how can I get on the MS viral campaign payroll, I want to buy Motorstorm and Full Auto 2 and could use the cash
Comment by dzotos — Apr 13, 2007 @ 6:20 pm
PS3 is crap
Wii is crap
360 is crap…
atari 7800 FTW!!!!
er….
Comment by seedaripper — Apr 14, 2007 @ 11:24 am
i have NEVER known such negativity towards a system??!! i just checked out ukresistence?(what the hell is that all about??) i have been gaming since the halcyon days of the ZX80/1 (horrace goes skiing anyone?)
but…
all this bad mouthing/propaganda is beginning to piss me right off…i must admit i have a preference towards playstation/sony products (when i first saw tombraider/resi 1 i was SOLD-plus i know im buying a quality product
but i NEVER goto ‘rival’ products forums and blast them for NO apparent reason…mark my words…NEVER!
seriously?! have you got nothing better to do? why are you not ‘playing’ the rival product?
it is fuckin mental….(excuse ones french-mon francais ne pa tre bien)
i got a bit bored/lack of time for gaming…(girlfriend/work/rent/money etc)
BUT…i bought a PS3…seriously im happy as frigging larry with it!
YES its pricey, YES sonys PR is shit, YES it doesnt have many decent games right now ,YES the online service is not the best….YET! (you get my drift ‘rivals’)
i dont believe in ‘negative’ fanboyism, i believe in ‘positive’ fanboyism!
PSN: seedaripper1973
Comment by seedaripper — Apr 14, 2007 @ 12:23 pm
Seedaripper - join the club at http://www.gamesey.com
Comment by Timeless — Apr 14, 2007 @ 5:57 pm
I think all fanboys are just tragic sad losers who need to get out more.
Comment by Jimmy — Apr 14, 2007 @ 7:26 pm
Dont like them. but then again with all the Sony bashing is the reason im all Sony this new gen. a 1st for me since i owned a xbox,game cube and PS2.
Sony fanboy for ever.
Comment by Jast3r Rogu3 — Apr 16, 2007 @ 10:37 am
Fanboyism goes way deeper than the forums and message boards. I have had friends told straight up fabricated lies about the ps3 so they wouldnt buy them. Sometimes I do think there is some kind of conspiracy or whatever because I have heard many many xbox fanboys tell people not to buy the PS3, but I have yet to hear a widespread dont buy wii, dont buy 360 lalala, when the current 360 has some actual widespread hardware problems. Who doesn’t know what the 3 red lights of death is? I am not telling people “dont buy 360″ cuz it’s their f**king choice. Dont even get me started about Gamestop EG and all them, I used to work for gamestop and worked with people telling customers that the ps3 was $800 and the games were all going to be $80. (Prior to launch obviously.)
Comment by Brainderailment — Apr 17, 2007 @ 6:06 am
Yes i’m tired of it.
Makes me think ive made a wrong choice in buying PS3 and should have bought Xbox.
But i know ive bought the better console, just hurry up with the content please and sort the sony eu shop out please.
Give us MKII, and hurry up with Home beta and Little Big..
Comment by Anthony — Apr 17, 2007 @ 11:38 am
It is well known that who controls the media controls the world.
You can formulate a lie, saturate all communication channels with it…until it becomes the only truth people can hang on.
There are media outfits out there who have indirectly been bought by Microsoft and others. They pretend to be unbiased, but they focus on broadcasting the message of those who butter their bread.
Sony’ PR need to improve, but no PR can compensate for the influence of such schemes.
So, Sony should keep their eyes on the ball. Say what you are going to do and do what you said you would. Don’t hype your chances into graves of delusion. Listen to your customers. Double your efforts in supporting developers who want to produce content for your platform.
Comment by L — Apr 17, 2007 @ 4:35 pm
L-
you took the words right out of my mind
and wrote it down in plain english
THANK YOU
Comment by whatdafunk — Apr 18, 2007 @ 7:10 am
@L (and Whatdafunk)
It is well known that who controls the media controls the world.
You can formulate a lie, saturate all communication channels with it…until it becomes the only truth people can hang on.
There are media outfits out there who have indirectly been bought by Microsoft and others. They pretend to be unbiased, but they focus on broadcasting the message of those who butter their bread.
YOU ARE POSTING THIS ON A ‘SEMI OFFICAL’ BLOG YOU ABSOLUTE NUMPTIES
SONY - YOU JUST HAVE TO WORK A BIT HARDER ON THOSE OF US WHO ARE NOT NAIVE/STUPID
Comment by Basil Brush — Apr 18, 2007 @ 11:34 am
All I care about is buying the system that suits my taste. Playstation will always be that system because the types of games that are release on it are the games I like.
And Basil Bush… get a life. Seriously, you need a life.
You say the media is not trying to say negative stuff about PS3, but yet you yourself are saying negative stuff about it. Wow, major contradiction/irony/stupidity/ignorance!!!
Comment by Rock Lee — Jun 3, 2007 @ 3:16 pm
Am i the media? no
i was just pointing out people were moaning about websites/media owned by Microsoft being biased towards 360 on a website about PS3 financed by Sony
it’s like the blind leading the blind
Comment by Basil Brush — Jun 8, 2007 @ 5:22 pm
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